would you say that and not taking away from all the efforts that have been made at cop 26 and then the upcoming cop 27 uh that these conferences and dialogues make any real progress uh because while there is a lot of awareness i think at some level there's also cynicism and it's this awareness has not been converted into the sense of urgency uh because one feels that these events have become talk shops um well it does create awareness as you have said and i think some of the panelists have also mentioned the importance having this conversation but in a way there has been a fair bit of cynicism as we have said because i attended cop21 and cop 21 i think was important for many reasons because it was one of the successful cops because all the previous one have been disappointing and there has been one promise made the promise was to get the climate fund the 100 billion that we're talking about and as we speak we're still short we still find that this gap and i think at the cop 26 i think miami actually she was very very illumined and actually she was very articulate in highlighting uh the the crisis that the developing countries are facing uh one of the reasons she actually rightly pointed out and uh is the sdrs this uh the special drawing rights that developing conditions access and we find that the climate change that the fund had not been capitalized and there's still a gap and the gap as at november 2021 it was about 26 billion us dollars or 21 or something like this so this shows this is where i think this cynicism is coming in from developing countries that the promises are not being met and if we don't get access to this fund how are developing countries going to be able to adapt how are they going to get the tools and one thing that i think many people the conversation is missing somewhere is that we opening are living in an interconnected world and if the curving has shown us anything it has shown us how interconnected we are to each other and also to the environment and this is i think something which has been missing in our conversation because as humans we have taken ourselves out of the environment and yet we are very much part of it and if you want to compress the 24 hours in one well the whole geological cycle in 24 hours we find that as humans we have existed for just five seconds before midnight and just imagine the damage that we have done to this planet so we are destroying the branch on which we are all sitting and that is the question that is the the that is the the the statement that we have to make to our kids what are we leaving them in terms of legacy when they'll have nothing and yesterday i was going around uh the city and i saw how we need to protect our soil and in 30 years there'll be no soil for us to farm on and this is something that is not taken seriously this is not something that is of course uh that the dollars are not ringing perhaps enough but we need to look at our environment we need to show our children that we are very much part of the ecosystem and the sooner we come to terms with this the better is going to be for us right and this uh this conversation this summit is i think an effort uh uh in that direction uh that uh since we're talking about the cop i have to ask can you represent the united nations here uh do you think we need another mechanism another platform uh to come up with enforceable solutions because we understand uh what ties the hands of u.n and its bodies and and beyond a point they can't do very much and the problems and the disagreements remain the politics remains and every leader is going to be looking at what is happening at home uh and then looking at their international responsibilities national interest versus international responsibility um i think i also sort of refer to this point earlier but in any global environmental challenge i think there is you know um there is only so much that an international mechanism can do when it comes to national action and therefore i wouldn't fault the mechanism i would say the mechanism the mechanism the success of the mechanism will you know as i said earlier will depend on how invested we are in making it successful and therefore i wouldn't really say that we need a new mechanism but what i would say is that you know unless we create incentives in the system for business unless we create incentives in the system for markets to drive the transition and the change just by you know heavy-handed chip policies or interventions of course policies are required but heavy-handed dictats are not going to sort of you know push the transition that we require until the market absorbs it and the market pushes it so uh global mechanisms are in my view there what we need is to strengthen market mechanisms which will drive the change that we want to see [Music] [Music]
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